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		<title>By: Ilona</title>
		<link>http://twoliablog.com/out-from-under/2008/01/31/i-am-womanstuff-me-with-coins-and-lip-balm/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 10:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen - Once again, you step right outside the paradigm I've presented, and view the information with a totally different slant than the one I'd considered. Never for a moment had I thought of a man handling one of these things. What a fascinating, and somewhat disturbing, point. Huh.

As a heterosexual woman with a fulfilling sex life, I have never ascribed to the notion that all male-female sex is rape. Obviously. Shouldn't be too surprising to know I'm offended by it.

But the idea that being reductive is the antithesis of liberation is a fascinating point. Thanks for sharing it.

Laura - "No it's not, you twit," made me laugh out loud. But did you say that out loud? Time for a little sex ed for the preschool teacher, I'm thinking.

Tammy - Well, there you go. You've come up with the only sensible use for that thing that seems possible. I'd be curious, too. Moreover, I'd like to know how many of them, after they figured out what it was, went "eeww." 'Course, these are teens. They'd probably do that with a model penis, too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen - Once again, you step right outside the paradigm I&#8217;ve presented, and view the information with a totally different slant than the one I&#8217;d considered. Never for a moment had I thought of a man handling one of these things. What a fascinating, and somewhat disturbing, point. Huh.</p>
<p>As a heterosexual woman with a fulfilling sex life, I have never ascribed to the notion that all male-female sex is rape. Obviously. Shouldn&#8217;t be too surprising to know I&#8217;m offended by it.</p>
<p>But the idea that being reductive is the antithesis of liberation is a fascinating point. Thanks for sharing it.</p>
<p>Laura - &#8220;No it&#8217;s not, you twit,&#8221; made me laugh out loud. But did you say that out loud? Time for a little sex ed for the preschool teacher, I&#8217;m thinking.</p>
<p>Tammy - Well, there you go. You&#8217;ve come up with the only sensible use for that thing that seems possible. I&#8217;d be curious, too. Moreover, I&#8217;d like to know how many of them, after they figured out what it was, went &#8220;eeww.&#8221; &#8216;Course, these are teens. They&#8217;d probably do that with a model penis, too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy</title>
		<link>http://twoliablog.com/out-from-under/2008/01/31/i-am-womanstuff-me-with-coins-and-lip-balm/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, THAT is funny.  I want one.  I would carry it to my sex-ed classes, and see how many students could correctly identify it.  Hee hee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, THAT is funny.  I want one.  I would carry it to my sex-ed classes, and see how many students could correctly identify it.  Hee hee!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I taught my daughter vulva.  Her former preschool teacher tried to "correct" her and told her, "No, that's your vagina."  No it's not you twit.  She wasn't pointing to her vagina.

The vulva clutch is so unnecessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I taught my daughter vulva.  Her former preschool teacher tried to &#8220;correct&#8221; her and told her, &#8220;No, that&#8217;s your vagina.&#8221;  No it&#8217;s not you twit.  She wasn&#8217;t pointing to her vagina.</p>
<p>The vulva clutch is so unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even more concerning to me is: What if a man wanted to start carrying around a vulva containing cash and lipbalm (or, say, condoms), which he could zip and unzip according to HIS needs? 

How liberated would the vulva be then?

Wouldn't that then be much like the already-disdained-by-many sex act, in which women are *always* taken advantage of, penetrated, stuffed, by men? What about marriage, which has widely been regarded as a form of prostitution?

When we are reductive with the vulva, particularly consigning it to being a money-holder, we are not liberating it. We are subscribing to patriarchal values that say that the vulva is more important than the woman-- but only in a very utilitarian sense, and only as long as it is willing to serve that purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even more concerning to me is: What if a man wanted to start carrying around a vulva containing cash and lipbalm (or, say, condoms), which he could zip and unzip according to HIS needs? </p>
<p>How liberated would the vulva be then?</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t that then be much like the already-disdained-by-many sex act, in which women are *always* taken advantage of, penetrated, stuffed, by men? What about marriage, which has widely been regarded as a form of prostitution?</p>
<p>When we are reductive with the vulva, particularly consigning it to being a money-holder, we are not liberating it. We are subscribing to patriarchal values that say that the vulva is more important than the woman&#8211; but only in a very utilitarian sense, and only as long as it is willing to serve that purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilona</title>
		<link>http://twoliablog.com/out-from-under/2008/01/31/i-am-womanstuff-me-with-coins-and-lip-balm/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pocket! I love it. What a good choice - smart girl, your daughter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pocket! I love it. What a good choice - smart girl, your daughter.</p>
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		<title>By: Her Bad Mother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Her Bad Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm teaching my daughter the word 'vulva'. But even though she sometimes substitutes the word 'pocket' - prompting many jokes in our household about pocket change - I won't be buying her a vulva change purse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m teaching my daughter the word &#8216;vulva&#8217;. But even though she sometimes substitutes the word &#8216;pocket&#8217; - prompting many jokes in our household about pocket change - I won&#8217;t be buying her a vulva change purse.</p>
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